[Blindapple] Making silent Disks Talk?

Jayson Smith jaybird at bluegrasspals.com
Tue Oct 1 13:16:56 EDT 2013

I'd just like to add that 0 is a valid line number in an Applesoft 
program. So if there's no line 0, that's probably the best place to put 
this line, from the "let's make this as simple as possible" perspective. 
Obviously if there is a line 0, you can go no earlier than that, so 
you'll have to see if that first line does anything for which you really 
need speech. For example, if it's just doing "TEXT:HOME" that just 
clears the screen, you really don't need speech for that, so if the next 
line was line 10, you could safely put the line to load Textalker in 
line 1 through line 9 without clobbering or missing out on anything.

On 10/1/2013 12:50 PM, Kyle wrote:
> Yeah, you did run textalker on the disk, but you completely replaced the
> HELLO program, which was probably not what you wanted to do. Do you have
> a backup copy of the disk you changed? Try the following:
> First, make a copy of the disk, as you don't want to modify the original
> disk; you want it as a backup in case you mess things up. Now put
> DOSTALK.DSK, BEXBOOT.DSK or one of a couple of other disks you have with
> both FID and Textalker into drive 1 (-flop1). Put your non-talking disk
> in drive 2 (-flop2). If you are using bex, you can type
> when it asks for a configuration, and type F at the main menu to run
> FID. If you are using DOSTALK or another disk that had FID, just type
> at the "ready" prompt.
> Once FID is running, Follow the prompts to select the source and
> destination slot and drive. Your disk drives are in slot 6, and are
> numbered 1 and 2. You will be copying from slot 6 drive 1 to slot 6
> drive 2. When asked for a filename, enter TEXTALKER.RAM. Also copy
> TEXTALKER.OBJ. If you get an error when trying to copy TEXTALKER.OBJ,
> copy TEXTALKER.RAM.OBJ instead. Now quit out of FID. If you are running
> from Bex, you will also need to quit out of Bex by typing Q at the menu.
> Otherwise, quitting out of FID will return you to the "ready" BASIC
> prompt. Now type the following commands as shown.
> Make note of the number of the first line of the program. Hopefully it
> is higher than 1. You can press control+c at this point. You will hear a
> beep followed by the word BREAK.
> So I told you to make a note of the line number of the first line of the
> program. This number is important because you are going to enter a new
> line into the program that starts with a lower number. For example, if
> the first line is 10, you can use any line number lower than 10. As long
> as the first line is higher than 1, you can safely use line 1 without
> damaging the program. Again, list the program to be sure that the first
> line number is higher than 1 and enter
> Now save the program
> The next time you reboot your silent disk, assuming of course that the
> program you want is either written in BASIC or doesn't overwrite
> Textalker in memory, you will have a newly talking disk with access to
> the programs that you wanted. Hope all this old Apple2e technobabble
> helps just a little. And people think Linux is an OS for geeks lol. Just
> drop them into a "ready" ] prompt on an Apple2e and see how far they
> get. It would be quite daunting even for some people who consider
> themselves geeks in 2013 <smiles>.
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/

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