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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks much. I suppose most of what I have is
already out there. I had a bunch of apple and eamon stuff years ago but
lost it all in a hard drive crash or something. Anyhow, I do have
sendspace. I've got several games disks, but don't recall without looking
what is on them. Mostly text games, such as kidnapped, stoneville manor,
Oregon trail and so forth. Anyone is welcome to anything I have, but
I'm likely walking paths that have been walked before. Later.
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jaybird@bluegrasspals.com href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">Jayson
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 23, 2020 8:35 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>As far as I know, most if not all Eamon games are
well preserved, as they were imaged many years ago. I don't know who's actually
hosting them now, but Eamon is still very much available.</DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>As for Dropbox, in short, it's a file sync service
where you create an account and download a piece of software to install on your
computer. They dropped support for Windows XP a few years ago. Visit dropbox.com
for more info. With a free account you get a few gigabytes of storage, not sure
how many, and you can create and join shared folders. On the subject of
which…</DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>The Talking Apple Archive folder is such a shared
folder. Only a few people have full read/write access, most members have
read-only access. A few people have their own directory where they put disk
images they've created, programs they wrote, etc. Most material is in
categorized folders E.G. accessibility, educational, games, productivity,
utilities, etc. Anyone interested in joining who already has Dropbox, just Email
me at <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">jaybird@bluegrasspals.com</A> with your
Email address and I can get you set up. If you want a folder for your own
material, just let me know what you want your folder to be called.</DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Jayson</DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 10/23/2020 9:36 PM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I've been looking all day through some boxes of disks I could find.
Still missing some I know. Only4 or 5 eamon disks and I had more than
that. Did find dos sample disk, prodos disk as well as lots
of games disks I haven't done yet. Also, a computer aids directory disk,
anyone remember that program. I redid that one so there is no copy
protection, fun to look at again. Also computer aids info, and I think
term-talk. I don't know anything about drop box, so if some one can
write me off list and explain that, I could likely do that, although sendspace
just renewed my account for another year which I would cancel if I could
figure out how. </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=joseph.norton@gmail.com
href="mailto:joseph.norton@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph Norton</A>
</DIV>
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href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Blind Apple
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 22, 2020 2:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Butch:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Glad you got it working.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If you want to send one of them to my Gmail it should be able to take an
attachment that size.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I can let you know if everything went OK on this end.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><BR>
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<DIV>Well, I finally got it to work. I'm not certain it was worth this
hastle, but hated to give up. I set switches as you suggested, also
turned the jumper over so I could use a straight cable, although I don't
think my null modem ones were the problem. What I finally did was drag
out an old windows copy of a program called secureterm. It let me
strip off the 8gh bit and also set a delay between lines. That finally
did the trick as far as the adp program went. I tried and tried, but
never could get the basic to transfer right. It kept screwing up line
numbers. Once I got the other working, I did some apple images and
also restored the adt123 disk so I now have the basic configuration program
if I want it. I am still looking for a lot of my apple disks, but do
have prodos master, and dos 3.3, as well as a bunch of text games.
Still looking for my eamon disks. I'll have to figure out where to put
these if any one wants them. I've fought this thing since last
Friday. Never did get the 2 c to work, they are just one strange
computer. One of mine won't even boot up. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks everyone for your help. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=cmelloni@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Blind
Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:00 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Yes, switch 1 (SW1) is towards the front of the computer. switch 2
(SW2) is on its right side holding the super serial card with the component
side facing you.</DIV>
<DIV>The jumper block is towards the back of the computer. </DIV>
<DIV>Despite ADTPro capability to setup the switches thought software in the
Apple IIC, personally I've never succeeded to do so. For me. It only worked
on IIe with super serial card</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr id=divRplyFwdMsg><B>From:</B> BlindApple <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com></A>
on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"><butchb@fairpoint.net></A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
October 21, 2020 3:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Blind Apple Discussions <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"><blindapple@bluegrasspals.com></A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction
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<DIV>Thanks much. I'm certain I set switches up properly, I assume
bank 1 is toward front of computer and s1 is also toward the front?
</DIV>
<DIV>I tried several cables. I also tried my 2c which I can't get to
communicate at all. I ordered the 2 c serial cable from the page you
mentioned, but I suspect it is meant for com 2, which is where the cricket
has to plug in. I also have another 2 e which I'll drag out just to
see if something there is strange. Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=cmelloni@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Apple
Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Based on your description, it seems you have a setup issue. A few
suggestions from the ADTPro website:</DIV>
<DIV>1) Check the serial cable. There are two types of cables:
straight-through or of the null modem. You need to setup your serial card
jumper block accordingly</DIV>
<DIV>2) Check the position of the terminal block jumper on the card:
for straight-through cable, the terminal block should point down. For
null-modem cable, the terminal block should point Up</DIV>
<DIV>2) Check the position of the card switch SW1 and SW2. They should be
setup as SW1: 1001111 SW2: 1101100. Where <TT>0</TT> means
<TT>off,</TT> <TT>down,</TT> or <TT>open,</TT> and <TT>1</TT> means
<TT>on,</TT> <TT>up,</TT> or <TT>closed.</TT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>More details in <A href="https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr id=x_divRplyFwdMsg><B>From:</B> BlindApple <A
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on behalf of Jayson Smith <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"><jaybird@bluegrasspals.com></A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
October 20, 2020 9:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Apple Discussions <A
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<DIV>
<P>Hi,</P>
<P><BR></P>
<P>This message was supposed to go to the list, but the poster wrote to me
privately instead.</P>
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<DIV>I've written Jayson off list, and he suggested I write to the
list. I have followed the instructions according to the manual
using a super serial card set as manual says. When trying to send any
program to the apple, I get a ton of beeps and nothing is saved. I ran
a terminal program on the windows box and am able to send say a catalog
command to the apple, but I get garbage back. Kind of reminds me of
when we had characters with 8th bit on. I've fought this thing all
week end. I've tried 3 different windows boxes. I only have the
one super serial card, so have ordered another one on ebay. I also dug
out my 2 c with a cricket synthesizer, and can't get the computers to talk
to each other no matter what I do. The cricket has to be in com 2 so
I'm using com 1. Trying to set baud and such with either ctrl a or
ctrl i commands and running through all baud settings in teraterm, I can't
get machines to communicate at all. Tried a null movem with no luck
either. I can't figure what I'm missing. I'm using the files
Jayson sent. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV>I've fought this thing for so many hours, I'm forgetting what all I've
tried. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jaybird@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Jayson
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=butchb@fairpoint.net
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net" moz-do-not-send="true">Tiny
Puppy-butchb</A> ; <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Apple
Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Putting this on the list in case anyone else
wants to give ADT a go.</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Okay, here is ADT. <BR><A
class=x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip</A><BR>When you
unzip it, you'll find several files, as follows: <BR><BR>adt.asm: Assembly
source code for Apple II ADT program <BR>adt.dmp: ADT Apple program, hex
dump to be sent to the Apple <BR>adt.exe: ADT Windows program, what you run
on the PC <BR>adt123.dsk: ADT Apple disk image <BR>Adtcfg.bas: Dump of an
Applesoft program to configure ADT, send this to the Apple <BR>adtn.dmp:
Same as adt.dmp but without line feeds for terminal programs that can't
strip them <BR>adtn_dmp_info.txt: Info about dump files <BR>ADT_doc.txt: ADT
documentation <BR>GPL.TXT: Gnu General Public License <BR>Manual.txt:
Complete ADT manual <BR>readme.txt: Brief Readme for ADT <BR><BR>To get
started, boot up a DOS 3.3 disk, disable Textalker with Ctrl-E, O if
necessary, then have a disk in slot 6, drive 1, with plenty of free space.
Then, follow the instructions in manual.txt to establish communication
between your Apple and PC and send either adt.dmp, or if your comm program
can't strip line feeds, adtn.dmp. At the end of the process it should save a
binary file called ADT and leave you at an Applesoft prompt. <BR><BR>Then,
use the same procedure to send adtcfg.bas to your Apple, and it should save
as an Applesoft program called ADT CONFIGURATION. <BR><BR>The default
configuration on the Apple side is that disks read or written are in slot 6,
drive 1. The Super Serial card is in slot 2, and the speed is 19200 BAUD. If
that's not what you want, run adt configuration to change it. <BR><BR>Now
run the PC program adt.exe. Choose the serial port and speed, and hit
Connect. Once that's done, BRUNADT to start ADT on the Apple side. The
program will not talk, but is very easy to use. I think at this point the
status line on the PC should say it's connected. <BR><BR>Now to send a disk,
put that disk in the drive and hit S, then type a filename, ending with .dsk
is recommended, and hit Enter. The Apple should start reading the disk, and
sending it. The disk image will be stored wherever adt.exe is, or in your
current working directory. <BR><BR>When any operation completes, you'll hear
a two-tone beep. If you hear this beep unexpectedly, it means there was some
sort of error. If you send a disk, and the drive spins for a few seconds
then nothing happens, and you don't hear the beep, there's probably a
communication problem. I think the program will prevent you from overwriting
an existing file on the PC. <BR><BR>To receive a disk, first be very, very
sure the disk in the drive doesn't contain anything valuable. It also must
have been initialized. ADT gives you absolutely no warnings about erasing
data, it assumes you know what you are doing. Type R, enter a filename, and
hit Enter. The disk will spin for a bit, then the PC will start sending the
disk image in chunks, and the Apple will write it to the disk. Absolutely
everything that was on the disk will be totally destroyed and overwritten
with the new material. <BR><BR>If the drive just spins for a bit, then you
hear a beep, that probably means that file doesn't exist in the directory on
the PC. <BR><BR>Remember that all disk transfer commands are from the Apple
perspective. When you send, you are sending an image from the Apple to the
PC. When you receive, you are receiving an image from the PC to the
Apple.<BR><BR>To exit the program, just hit Q. <BR><BR>A few notes. This
program uses data compression, so especially if a disk has a lot of empty
space, it'll transfer more quickly. Also, all transfers are done in
seven-track chunks, which means when sending, the Apple will read seven
tracks, send them, read seven more tracks, send them, etc. When receiving,
the reverse will happen. <BR><BR>I recommend keeping the ADT binary file and
ADT CONFIGURATION Applesoft program in a safe place. If you lose it or
accidentally overwrite it with something else, you'll have to do the whole
bootstrapping process all over again.<BR><BR>If you have any questions,
please let me know! <BR>Hope this helps, <BR><BR>Jayson <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>On 10/6/2020 9:28 PM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
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<DIV>Think I sent you a note saying aI wanted more info, not sure.
Anyhow, I hope the program on the apple end talks? Also, I assume
I'll have to use terminal programs to move the program from this computer
to the 2 e? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jaybird@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Jayson
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=butchb@fairpoint.net
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net" moz-do-not-send="true">Tiny
Puppy-butchb</A> ; <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Apple
Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>You can transfer 5.25 inch disks formatted
for either DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and which are not copy protected, using a
program called Apple Disk Transfer. The version I have requires a Super
Serial card in your Apple, and a Windows PC for the receiving side. I got
Jeff Weiss, who is on this list, set up with ADT a few years ago so he
could transfer all his Apple Talk magazine disks, which he did
successfully. If you want more info, just let me know.</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Jayson</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>On 10/6/2020 1:01 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
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<DIV>I got some stuff downloaded that I run at the command prompt in
windows. As far as what I have on actual disks, it has been a long
long time. I did find kidnapped, which I use to play.
Haven't found stoneville manor yet. I don't have a clue how to
turn those disks into images. I also have lots of eamon disks,
beagle brothers stuff and things like that. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=cmelloni@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2020 7:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Welcome to the list. I'm curious to know the major titles you have
in collection.</DIV>
<DIV>You can also find many apple2 related applications in the Asimov
ftp server<BR></DIV>
<DIV><A href="https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/</A><BR></DIV>
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moz-do-not-send="true">blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>> on
behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb <<A href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">butchb@fairpoint.net</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
October 6, 2020 12:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV class=x_x_PlainText>Just joined this list. My first computer
was an apple 2 e which <BR>I still have. I plan on digging out my
2 e soon, still have the <BR>disks as well as a ten meg prodos scsii
external drive. My 2 e <BR>also has I think 8 meg of ram on a card
that took 36 256k chips.<BR>Looking forward to lots of old apple
stuff.<BR>Butch<BR><BR><A class=x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">butchb@fairpoint.net</A><BR>Butch
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