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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As far as I know, most if not all Eamon
games are well preserved, as they were imaged many years ago. I
don't know who's actually hosting them now, but Eamon is still
very much available.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As for Dropbox, in short, it's a file
sync service where you create an account and download a piece of
software to install on your computer. They dropped support for
Windows XP a few years ago. Visit dropbox.com for more info. With
a free account you get a few gigabytes of storage, not sure how
many, and you can create and join shared folders. On the subject
of which…</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The Talking Apple Archive folder is
such a shared folder. Only a few people have full read/write
access, most members have read-only access. A few people have
their own directory where they put disk images they've created,
programs they wrote, etc. Most material is in categorized folders
E.G. accessibility, educational, games, productivity, utilities,
etc. Anyone interested in joining who already has Dropbox, just
Email me at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">jaybird@bluegrasspals.com</a> with your Email address and
I can get you set up. If you want a folder for your own material,
just let me know what you want your folder to be called.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jayson</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/23/2020 9:36 PM, Tiny
Puppy-butchb wrote:<br>
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<div>I've been looking all day through some boxes of disks I could
find. Still missing some I know. Only4 or 5 eamon disks and I
had more than that. Did find dos sample disk, prodos disk as
well as lots of games disks I haven't done yet. Also, a
computer aids directory disk, anyone remember that program. I
redid that one so there is no copy protection, fun to look at
again. Also computer aids info, and I think term-talk. I don't
know anything about drop box, so if some one can write me off
list and explain that, I could likely do that, although
sendspace just renewed my account for another year which I would
cancel if I could figure out how. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="joseph.norton@gmail.com"
href="mailto:joseph.norton@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph
Norton</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Blind Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 22, 2020 2:56 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</div>
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<div>Hi Butch:</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Glad you got it working.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>If you want to send one of them to my Gmail it should be able
to take an attachment that size.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can let you know if everything went OK on this end.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 22, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Tiny
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moz-do-not-send="true">butchb@fairpoint.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Well, I finally got it to work. I'm not certain it was
worth this hastle, but hated to give up. I set switches
as you suggested, also turned the jumper over so I could
use a straight cable, although I don't think my null modem
ones were the problem. What I finally did was drag out an
old windows copy of a program called secureterm. It let
me strip off the 8gh bit and also set a delay between
lines. That finally did the trick as far as the adp
program went. I tried and tried, but never could get the
basic to transfer right. It kept screwing up line
numbers. Once I got the other working, I did some apple
images and also restored the adt123 disk so I now have the
basic configuration program if I want it. I am still
looking for a lot of my apple disks, but do have prodos
master, and dos 3.3, as well as a bunch of text games.
Still looking for my eamon disks. I'll have to figure out
where to put these if any one wants them. I've fought
this thing since last Friday. Never did get the 2 c to
work, they are just one strange computer. One of mine
won't even boot up. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks everyone for your help. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a title="cmelloni@hotmail.com"
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">A B</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Blind Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:00 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re:
introduction</div>
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<div>Yes, switch 1 (SW1) is towards the front of the
computer. switch 2 (SW2) is on its right side holding the
super serial card with the component side facing you.</div>
<div>The jumper block is towards the back of the computer. </div>
<div>Despite ADTPro capability to setup the switches thought
software in the Apple IIC, personally I've never succeeded
to do so. For me. It only worked on IIe with super serial
card</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><b>From:</b> BlindApple
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com></a> on behalf
of Tiny Puppy-butchb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"><butchb@fairpoint.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> October 21, 2020 3:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Blind Apple Discussions
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction
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<div>Thanks much. I'm certain I set switches up
properly, I assume bank 1 is toward front of computer
and s1 is also toward the front? </div>
<div>I tried several cables. I also tried my 2c which I
can't get to communicate at all. I ordered the 2 c
serial cable from the page you mentioned, but I
suspect it is meant for com 2, which is where the
cricket has to plug in. I also have another 2 e which
I'll drag out just to see if something there is
strange. Thanks. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a title="cmelloni@hotmail.com"
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">A B</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:37 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re:
introduction</div>
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<div>Based on your description, it seems you have a
setup issue. A few suggestions from the ADTPro
website:</div>
<div>1) Check the serial cable. There are two types of
cables: straight-through or of the null modem. You
need to setup your serial card jumper block
accordingly</div>
<div>2) Check the position of the terminal block jumper
on the card: for straight-through cable, the terminal
block should point down. For null-modem cable, the
terminal block should point Up</div>
<div>2) Check the position of the card switch SW1 and
SW2. They should be setup as SW1: 1001111 SW2:
1101100. Where <tt>0</tt> means <tt>off,</tt> <tt>down,</tt>
or <tt>open,</tt> and <tt>1</tt> means <tt>on,</tt>
<tt>up,</tt> or <tt>closed.</tt></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>More details in <a
href="https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html</a><br>
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BlindApple
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"><blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com></a> on
behalf of Jayson Smith
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"><jaybird@bluegrasspals.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> October 20, 2020 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Apple Discussions
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<b>Subject:</b> [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>This message was supposed to go to the list, but
the poster wrote to me privately instead.</p>
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<td>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:33:13 -0600</td>
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<div>I've written Jayson off list, and he
suggested I write to the list. I have followed
the instructions according to the manual using
a super serial card set as manual says. When
trying to send any program to the apple, I get a
ton of beeps and nothing is saved. I ran a
terminal program on the windows box and am able
to send say a catalog command to the apple, but
I get garbage back. Kind of reminds me of when
we had characters with 8th bit on. I've fought
this thing all week end. I've tried 3 different
windows boxes. I only have the one super serial
card, so have ordered another one on ebay. I
also dug out my 2 c with a cricket synthesizer,
and can't get the computers to talk to each
other no matter what I do. The cricket has to
be in com 2 so I'm using com 1. Trying to set
baud and such with either ctrl a or ctrl i
commands and running through all baud settings
in teraterm, I can't get machines to communicate
at all. Tried a null movem with no luck
either. I can't figure what I'm missing. I'm
using the files Jayson sent. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks. </div>
<div>I've fought this thing for so many hours, I'm
forgetting what all I've tried. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a
title="jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jayson Smith</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="butchb@fairpoint.net"
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tiny Puppy-butchb</a>
; <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Apple Discussions</a>
</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:26
PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple]
introduction</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Putting this on
the list in case anyone else wants to give ADT a
go.</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Okay, here is
ADT. <br>
<a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip</a><br>
When you unzip it, you'll find several files, as
follows: <br>
<br>
adt.asm: Assembly source code for Apple II ADT
program <br>
adt.dmp: ADT Apple program, hex dump to be sent
to the Apple <br>
adt.exe: ADT Windows program, what you run on
the PC <br>
adt123.dsk: ADT Apple disk image <br>
Adtcfg.bas: Dump of an Applesoft program to
configure ADT, send this to the Apple <br>
adtn.dmp: Same as adt.dmp but without line feeds
for terminal programs that can't strip them <br>
adtn_dmp_info.txt: Info about dump files <br>
ADT_doc.txt: ADT documentation <br>
GPL.TXT: Gnu General Public License <br>
Manual.txt: Complete ADT manual <br>
readme.txt: Brief Readme for ADT <br>
<br>
To get started, boot up a DOS 3.3 disk, disable
Textalker with Ctrl-E, O if necessary, then have
a disk in slot 6, drive 1, with plenty of free
space. Then, follow the instructions in
manual.txt to establish communication between
your Apple and PC and send either adt.dmp, or if
your comm program can't strip line feeds,
adtn.dmp. At the end of the process it should
save a binary file called ADT and leave you at
an Applesoft prompt. <br>
<br>
Then, use the same procedure to send adtcfg.bas
to your Apple, and it should save as an
Applesoft program called ADT CONFIGURATION. <br>
<br>
The default configuration on the Apple side is
that disks read or written are in slot 6, drive
1. The Super Serial card is in slot 2, and the
speed is 19200 BAUD. If that's not what you
want, run adt configuration to change it. <br>
<br>
Now run the PC program adt.exe. Choose the
serial port and speed, and hit Connect. Once
that's done, BRUNADT to start ADT on the Apple
side. The program will not talk, but is very
easy to use. I think at this point the status
line on the PC should say it's connected. <br>
<br>
Now to send a disk, put that disk in the drive
and hit S, then type a filename, ending with
.dsk is recommended, and hit Enter. The Apple
should start reading the disk, and sending it.
The disk image will be stored wherever adt.exe
is, or in your current working directory. <br>
<br>
When any operation completes, you'll hear a
two-tone beep. If you hear this beep
unexpectedly, it means there was some sort of
error. If you send a disk, and the drive spins
for a few seconds then nothing happens, and you
don't hear the beep, there's probably a
communication problem. I think the program will
prevent you from overwriting an existing file on
the PC. <br>
<br>
To receive a disk, first be very, very sure the
disk in the drive doesn't contain anything
valuable. It also must have been initialized.
ADT gives you absolutely no warnings about
erasing data, it assumes you know what you are
doing. Type R, enter a filename, and hit Enter.
The disk will spin for a bit, then the PC will
start sending the disk image in chunks, and the
Apple will write it to the disk. Absolutely
everything that was on the disk will be totally
destroyed and overwritten with the new material.
<br>
<br>
If the drive just spins for a bit, then you hear
a beep, that probably means that file doesn't
exist in the directory on the PC. <br>
<br>
Remember that all disk transfer commands are
from the Apple perspective. When you send, you
are sending an image from the Apple to the PC.
When you receive, you are receiving an image
from the PC to the Apple.<br>
<br>
To exit the program, just hit Q. <br>
<br>
A few notes. This program uses data compression,
so especially if a disk has a lot of empty
space, it'll transfer more quickly. Also, all
transfers are done in seven-track chunks, which
means when sending, the Apple will read seven
tracks, send them, read seven more tracks, send
them, etc. When receiving, the reverse will
happen. <br>
<br>
I recommend keeping the ADT binary file and ADT
CONFIGURATION Applesoft program in a safe place.
If you lose it or accidentally overwrite it with
something else, you'll have to do the whole
bootstrapping process all over again.<br>
<br>
If you have any questions, please let me know! <br>
Hope this helps, <br>
<br>
Jayson <br>
<br>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 10/6/2020 9:28
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<div>Think I sent you a note saying aI wanted
more info, not sure. Anyhow, I hope the
program on the apple end talks? Also, I
assume I'll have to use terminal programs to
move the program from this computer to the 2
e? </div>
<div>Thanks. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a
title="jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jayson Smith</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
title="butchb@fairpoint.net"
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tiny Puppy-butchb</a>
; <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Apple Discussions</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2020
12:52 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple]
introduction</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">You can
transfer 5.25 inch disks formatted for either
DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and which are not copy
protected, using a program called Apple Disk
Transfer. The version I have requires a Super
Serial card in your Apple, and a Windows PC
for the receiving side. I got Jeff Weiss, who
is on this list, set up with ADT a few years
ago so he could transfer all his Apple Talk
magazine disks, which he did successfully. If
you want more info, just let me know.</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Jayson</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 10/6/2020
1:01 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb wrote:<br>
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<div>I got some stuff downloaded that I run at
the command prompt in windows. As far as
what I have on actual disks, it has been a
long long time. I did find kidnapped, which
I use to play. Haven't found stoneville
manor yet. I don't have a clue how to turn
those disks into images. I also have lots
of eamon disks, beagle brothers stuff and
things like that. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a
title="cmelloni@hotmail.com"
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">A B</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2020
7:28 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple]
introduction</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Welcome to the list. I'm curious to know
the major titles you have in collection.</div>
<div>You can also find many apple2 related
applications in the Asimov ftp server<br>
</div>
<div><a
href="https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/</a><br>
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BlindApple <<a
href="mailto:blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</a>>
on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb <<a
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">butchb@fairpoint.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> October 6, 2020 12:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
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href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Blindapple] introduction
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<div class="x_x_PlainText">Just joined
this list. My first computer was an
apple 2 e which <br>
I still have. I plan on digging out
my 2 e soon, still have the <br>
disks as well as a ten meg prodos
scsii external drive. My 2 e <br>
also has I think 8 meg of ram on a
card that took 36 256k chips.<br>
Looking forward to lots of old apple
stuff.<br>
Butch<br>
<br>
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href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">butchb@fairpoint.net</a><br>
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WA0VJR<br>
node 3148 <br>
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