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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'll send you one I made up on prodos. Phone
number is no longer good. Has several versions of textalker, one will run
on a 2c with the cricket. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=joseph.norton@gmail.com href="mailto:joseph.norton@gmail.com">Joseph
Norton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 22, 2020 2:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Butch:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Glad you got it working.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If you want to send one of them to my Gmail it should be able to take an
attachment that size.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I can let you know if everything went OK on this end.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Oct 22, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb <<A
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">butchb@fairpoint.net</A>>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Well, I finally got it to work. I'm not
certain it was worth this hastle, but hated to give up. I set switches
as you suggested, also turned the jumper over so I could use a straight cable,
although I don't think my null modem ones were the problem. What I
finally did was drag out an old windows copy of a program called
secureterm. It let me strip off the 8gh bit and also set a delay between
lines. That finally did the trick as far as the adp program went.
I tried and tried, but never could get the basic to transfer right. It
kept screwing up line numbers. Once I got the other working, I did some
apple images and also restored the adt123 disk so I now have the basic
configuration program if I want it. I am still looking for a lot of my
apple disks, but do have prodos master, and dos 3.3, as well as a bunch of
text games. Still looking for my eamon disks. I'll have to figure
out where to put these if any one wants them. I've fought this thing
since last Friday. Never did get the 2 c to work, they are just one
strange computer. One of mine won't even boot up. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks everyone for your help.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=cmelloni@hotmail.com href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:00 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes,
switch 1 (SW1) is towards the front of the computer. switch 2 (SW2) is on its
right side holding the super serial card with the component side facing
you.</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
jumper block is towards the back of the computer. </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Despite
ADTPro capability to setup the switches thought software in the Apple IIC,
personally I've never succeeded to do so. For me. It only worked on IIe with
super serial card</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr id=divRplyFwdMsg><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" color=#000000
face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> BlindApple
<blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com> on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb
<butchb@fairpoint.net><BR><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2020 3:58
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Blind Apple Discussions
<blindapple@bluegrasspals.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd:
Re: introduction</FONT>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks much. I'm certain I set switches up
properly, I assume bank 1 is toward front of computer and s1 is also toward
the front? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I tried several cables. I also tried my 2c
which I can't get to communicate at all. I ordered the 2 c serial cable
from the page you mentioned, but I suspect it is meant for com 2, which is
where the cricket has to plug in. I also have another 2 e which I'll
drag out just to see if something there is strange. Thanks.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=cmelloni@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</DIV></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Based
on your description, it seems you have a setup issue. A few suggestions from
the ADTPro website:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1)
Check the serial cable. There are two types of cables: straight-through or of
the null modem. You need to setup your serial card jumper block
accordingly</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2)
Check the position of the terminal block jumper on the card:
for straight-through cable, the terminal block should point down. For
null-modem cable, the terminal block should point Up</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2)
Check the position of the card switch SW1 and SW2. They should be setup as
SW1: 1001111 SW2: 1101100. Where <TT>0</TT> means <TT>off,</TT>
<TT>down,</TT> or <TT>open,</TT> and <TT>1</TT> means <TT>on,</TT>
<TT>up,</TT> or <TT>closed.</TT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">More
details in <A
href="https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html">https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr id=x_divRplyFwdMsg><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" color=#000000
face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> BlindApple
<blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com> on behalf of Jayson Smith
<jaybird@bluegrasspals.com><BR><B>Sent:</B> October 20, 2020 9:42
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Apple Discussions
<blindapple@bluegrasspals.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Blindapple] Fwd: Re:
introduction</FONT>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">Hi,</P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><BR></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">This message was supposed to go
to the list, but the poster wrote to me privately instead.</P>
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<TD>Re: [Blindapple] introduction</TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>Date: </TH>
<TD>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:33:13 -0600</TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>From: </TH>
<TD>Tiny Puppy-butchb <A class=x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"><butchb@fairpoint.net></A></TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>To: </TH>
<TD>Jayson Smith <A class=x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've written Jayson off list, and he suggested I
write to the list. I have followed the instructions according to
the manual using a super serial card set as manual says. When trying to
send any program to the apple, I get a ton of beeps and nothing is
saved. I ran a terminal program on the windows box and am able to send
say a catalog command to the apple, but I get garbage back. Kind of
reminds me of when we had characters with 8th bit on. I've fought this
thing all week end. I've tried 3 different windows boxes. I only
have the one super serial card, so have ordered another one on ebay. I
also dug out my 2 c with a cricket synthesizer, and can't get the computers to
talk to each other no matter what I do. The cricket has to be in com 2
so I'm using com 1. Trying to set baud and such with either ctrl a or
ctrl i commands and running through all baud settings in teraterm, I can't get
machines to communicate at all. Tried a null movem with no luck
either. I can't figure what I'm missing. I'm using the files
Jayson sent. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've fought this thing for so many hours, I'm
forgetting what all I've tried. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jaybird@bluegrasspals.com href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">Jayson
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=butchb@fairpoint.net
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">Tiny Puppy-butchb</A> ; <A
title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Putting this on the list in case anyone else
wants to give ADT a go.</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Okay, here is ADT. <BR><A
class=x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip">http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip</A><BR>When
you unzip it, you'll find several files, as follows: <BR><BR>adt.asm: Assembly
source code for Apple II ADT program <BR>adt.dmp: ADT Apple program, hex dump
to be sent to the Apple <BR>adt.exe: ADT Windows program, what you run on the
PC <BR>adt123.dsk: ADT Apple disk image <BR>Adtcfg.bas: Dump of an Applesoft
program to configure ADT, send this to the Apple <BR>adtn.dmp: Same as adt.dmp
but without line feeds for terminal programs that can't strip them
<BR>adtn_dmp_info.txt: Info about dump files <BR>ADT_doc.txt: ADT
documentation <BR>GPL.TXT: Gnu General Public License <BR>Manual.txt: Complete
ADT manual <BR>readme.txt: Brief Readme for ADT <BR><BR>To get started, boot
up a DOS 3.3 disk, disable Textalker with Ctrl-E, O if necessary, then have a
disk in slot 6, drive 1, with plenty of free space. Then, follow the
instructions in manual.txt to establish communication between your Apple and
PC and send either adt.dmp, or if your comm program can't strip line feeds,
adtn.dmp. At the end of the process it should save a binary file called ADT
and leave you at an Applesoft prompt. <BR><BR>Then, use the same procedure to
send adtcfg.bas to your Apple, and it should save as an Applesoft program
called ADT CONFIGURATION. <BR><BR>The default configuration on the Apple side
is that disks read or written are in slot 6, drive 1. The Super Serial card is
in slot 2, and the speed is 19200 BAUD. If that's not what you want, run adt
configuration to change it. <BR><BR>Now run the PC program adt.exe. Choose the
serial port and speed, and hit Connect. Once that's done, BRUNADT to start ADT
on the Apple side. The program will not talk, but is very easy to use. I think
at this point the status line on the PC should say it's connected. <BR><BR>Now
to send a disk, put that disk in the drive and hit S, then type a filename,
ending with .dsk is recommended, and hit Enter. The Apple should start reading
the disk, and sending it. The disk image will be stored wherever adt.exe is,
or in your current working directory. <BR><BR>When any operation completes,
you'll hear a two-tone beep. If you hear this beep unexpectedly, it means
there was some sort of error. If you send a disk, and the drive spins for a
few seconds then nothing happens, and you don't hear the beep, there's
probably a communication problem. I think the program will prevent you from
overwriting an existing file on the PC. <BR><BR>To receive a disk, first be
very, very sure the disk in the drive doesn't contain anything valuable. It
also must have been initialized. ADT gives you absolutely no warnings about
erasing data, it assumes you know what you are doing. Type R, enter a
filename, and hit Enter. The disk will spin for a bit, then the PC will start
sending the disk image in chunks, and the Apple will write it to the disk.
Absolutely everything that was on the disk will be totally destroyed and
overwritten with the new material. <BR><BR>If the drive just spins for a bit,
then you hear a beep, that probably means that file doesn't exist in the
directory on the PC. <BR><BR>Remember that all disk transfer commands are from
the Apple perspective. When you send, you are sending an image from the Apple
to the PC. When you receive, you are receiving an image from the PC to the
Apple.<BR><BR>To exit the program, just hit Q. <BR><BR>A few notes. This
program uses data compression, so especially if a disk has a lot of empty
space, it'll transfer more quickly. Also, all transfers are done in
seven-track chunks, which means when sending, the Apple will read seven
tracks, send them, read seven more tracks, send them, etc. When receiving, the
reverse will happen. <BR><BR>I recommend keeping the ADT binary file and ADT
CONFIGURATION Applesoft program in a safe place. If you lose it or
accidentally overwrite it with something else, you'll have to do the whole
bootstrapping process all over again.<BR><BR>If you have any questions, please
let me know! <BR>Hope this helps, <BR><BR>Jayson <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>On 10/6/2020 9:28 PM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Think I sent you a note saying aI wanted more info, not sure.
Anyhow, I hope the program on the apple end talks? Also, I assume I'll
have to use terminal programs to move the program from this computer to the
2 e? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jaybird@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">Jayson Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=butchb@fairpoint.net
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">Tiny Puppy-butchb</A> ; <A
title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>You can transfer 5.25 inch disks formatted
for either DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and which are not copy protected, using a
program called Apple Disk Transfer. The version I have requires a Super
Serial card in your Apple, and a Windows PC for the receiving side. I got
Jeff Weiss, who is on this list, set up with ADT a few years ago so he could
transfer all his Apple Talk magazine disks, which he did successfully. If
you want more info, just let me know.</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>Jayson</DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=x_x_moz-cite-prefix>On 10/6/2020 1:01 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
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<DIV>I got some stuff downloaded that I run at the command prompt in
windows. As far as what I have on actual disks, it has been a long
long time. I did find kidnapped, which I use to play. Haven't
found stoneville manor yet. I don't have a clue how to turn those
disks into images. I also have lots of eamon disks, beagle brothers
stuff and things like that. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=cmelloni@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com">A B</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blindapple@bluegrasspals.com
href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2020 7:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Welcome to the list. I'm curious to know the major titles you have in
collection.</DIV>
<DIV>You can also find many apple2 related applications in the Asimov ftp
server<BR></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/">https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr id=x_x_divRplyFwdMsg><B>From:</B> BlindApple <<A
href="mailto:blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com</A>>
on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb <<A
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">butchb@fairpoint.net</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
October 6, 2020 12:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com"><blindapple@bluegrasspals.com></A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Blindapple] introduction
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<DIV class=x_x_PlainText>Just joined this list. My first computer
was an apple 2 e which <BR>I still have. I plan on digging out my 2
e soon, still have the <BR>disks as well as a ten meg prodos scsii
external drive. My 2 e <BR>also has I think 8 meg of ram on a card
that took 36 256k chips.<BR>Looking forward to lots of old apple
stuff.<BR>Butch<BR><BR><A class=x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">butchb@fairpoint.net</A><BR>Butch
Bussen<BR>WA0VJR<BR>node 3148
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