<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Butch:</div><div><br></div><div>Glad you got it working.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want to send one of them to my Gmail it should be able to take an attachment that size.</div><div><br></div><div>I can let you know if everything went OK on this end.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 22, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb <butchb@fairpoint.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well, I finally got it to work. I'm not
certain it was worth this hastle, but hated to give up. I set switches as
you suggested, also turned the jumper over so I could use a straight cable,
although I don't think my null modem ones were the problem. What I finally
did was drag out an old windows copy of a program called secureterm. It
let me strip off the 8gh bit and also set a delay between lines. That
finally did the trick as far as the adp program went. I tried and tried,
but never could get the basic to transfer right. It kept screwing up line
numbers. Once I got the other working, I did some apple images and also
restored the adt123 disk so I now have the basic configuration program if I want
it. I am still looking for a lot of my apple disks, but do have prodos
master, and dos 3.3, as well as a bunch of text games. Still looking for
my eamon disks. I'll have to figure out where to put these if any one
wants them. I've fought this thing since last Friday. Never did get
the 2 c to work, they are just one strange computer. One of mine won't
even boot up. </font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks everyone for your help. </font></div>
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<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:00 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</div></div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes,
switch 1 (SW1) is towards the front of the computer. switch 2 (SW2) is on its
right side holding the super serial card with the component side facing
you.</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
jumper block is towards the back of the computer. </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Despite
ADTPro capability to setup the switches thought software in the Apple IIC,
personally I've never succeeded to do so. For me. It only worked on IIe with
super serial card</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> BlindApple
<blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com> on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb
<butchb@fairpoint.net><br><b>Sent:</b> October 21, 2020 3:58
AM<br><b>To:</b> Blind Apple Discussions
<blindapple@bluegrasspals.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd:
Re: introduction</font>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks much. I'm certain I set switches up
properly, I assume bank 1 is toward front of computer and s1 is also toward the
front? </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I tried several cables. I also tried my 2c
which I can't get to communicate at all. I ordered the 2 c serial cable
from the page you mentioned, but I suspect it is meant for com 2, which is where
the cricket has to plug in. I also have another 2 e which I'll drag out
just to see if something there is strange. Thanks. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="cmelloni@hotmail.com" href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com">A B</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:37 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Fwd: Re: introduction</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Based
on your description, it seems you have a setup issue. A few suggestions from the
ADTPro website:</div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1)
Check the serial cable. There are two types of cables: straight-through or of
the null modem. You need to setup your serial card jumper block
accordingly</div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2)
Check the position of the terminal block jumper on the card:
for straight-through cable, the terminal block should point down. For
null-modem cable, the terminal block should point Up</div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2)
Check the position of the card switch SW1 and SW2. They should be setup as SW1:
1001111 SW2: 1101100. Where <tt>0</tt> means <tt>off,</tt> <tt>down,</tt>
or <tt>open,</tt> and <tt>1</tt> means <tt>on,</tt> <tt>up,</tt> or
<tt>closed.</tt></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt">More
details in <a href="https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html">https://www.adtpro.com/connectionsserial.html</a><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> BlindApple
<blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com> on behalf of Jayson Smith
<jaybird@bluegrasspals.com><br><b>Sent:</b> October 20, 2020 9:42
AM<br><b>To:</b> Apple Discussions
<blindapple@bluegrasspals.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [Blindapple] Fwd: Re:
introduction</font>
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<p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">Hi,</p>
<p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><br></p>
<p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">This message was supposed to go
to the list, but the poster wrote to me privately instead.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><br></p>
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<td>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:33:13 -0600</td></tr>
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<td>Tiny Puppy-butchb <a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net"><butchb@fairpoint.net></a></td></tr>
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<th valign="baseline" nowrap="" align="right">To: </th>
<td>Jayson Smith <a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com"><jaybird@bluegrasspals.com></a></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I've written Jayson off list, and he suggested I
write to the list. I have followed the instructions according to the
manual using a super serial card set as manual says. When trying to send
any program to the apple, I get a ton of beeps and nothing is saved. I ran
a terminal program on the windows box and am able to send say a catalog command
to the apple, but I get garbage back. Kind of reminds me of when we had
characters with 8th bit on. I've fought this thing all week end.
I've tried 3 different windows boxes. I only have the one super serial
card, so have ordered another one on ebay. I also dug out my 2 c with a
cricket synthesizer, and can't get the computers to talk to each other no matter
what I do. The cricket has to be in com 2 so I'm using com 1. Trying
to set baud and such with either ctrl a or ctrl i commands and running through
all baud settings in teraterm, I can't get machines to communicate at all.
Tried a null movem with no luck either. I can't figure what I'm
missing. I'm using the files Jayson sent. </font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks. </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I've fought this thing for so many hours, I'm
forgetting what all I've tried. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="jaybird@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">Jayson Smith</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="butchb@fairpoint.net" href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">Tiny Puppy-butchb</a> ; <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:26 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Putting this on the list in case anyone else
wants to give ADT a go.</div>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Okay, here is ADT. <br><a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip">http://bluegrasspals.com/adt.zip</a><br>When
you unzip it, you'll find several files, as follows: <br><br>adt.asm: Assembly
source code for Apple II ADT program <br>adt.dmp: ADT Apple program, hex dump to
be sent to the Apple <br>adt.exe: ADT Windows program, what you run on the PC
<br>adt123.dsk: ADT Apple disk image <br>Adtcfg.bas: Dump of an Applesoft
program to configure ADT, send this to the Apple <br>adtn.dmp: Same as adt.dmp
but without line feeds for terminal programs that can't strip them
<br>adtn_dmp_info.txt: Info about dump files <br>ADT_doc.txt: ADT documentation
<br>GPL.TXT: Gnu General Public License <br>Manual.txt: Complete ADT manual
<br>readme.txt: Brief Readme for ADT <br><br>To get started, boot up a DOS 3.3
disk, disable Textalker with Ctrl-E, O if necessary, then have a disk in slot 6,
drive 1, with plenty of free space. Then, follow the instructions in manual.txt
to establish communication between your Apple and PC and send either adt.dmp, or
if your comm program can't strip line feeds, adtn.dmp. At the end of the process
it should save a binary file called ADT and leave you at an Applesoft prompt.
<br><br>Then, use the same procedure to send adtcfg.bas to your Apple, and it
should save as an Applesoft program called ADT CONFIGURATION. <br><br>The
default configuration on the Apple side is that disks read or written are in
slot 6, drive 1. The Super Serial card is in slot 2, and the speed is 19200
BAUD. If that's not what you want, run adt configuration to change it.
<br><br>Now run the PC program adt.exe. Choose the serial port and speed, and
hit Connect. Once that's done, BRUNADT to start ADT on the Apple side. The
program will not talk, but is very easy to use. I think at this point the status
line on the PC should say it's connected. <br><br>Now to send a disk, put that
disk in the drive and hit S, then type a filename, ending with .dsk is
recommended, and hit Enter. The Apple should start reading the disk, and sending
it. The disk image will be stored wherever adt.exe is, or in your current
working directory. <br><br>When any operation completes, you'll hear a two-tone
beep. If you hear this beep unexpectedly, it means there was some sort of error.
If you send a disk, and the drive spins for a few seconds then nothing happens,
and you don't hear the beep, there's probably a communication problem. I think
the program will prevent you from overwriting an existing file on the PC.
<br><br>To receive a disk, first be very, very sure the disk in the drive
doesn't contain anything valuable. It also must have been initialized. ADT gives
you absolutely no warnings about erasing data, it assumes you know what you are
doing. Type R, enter a filename, and hit Enter. The disk will spin for a bit,
then the PC will start sending the disk image in chunks, and the Apple will
write it to the disk. Absolutely everything that was on the disk will be totally
destroyed and overwritten with the new material. <br><br>If the drive just spins
for a bit, then you hear a beep, that probably means that file doesn't exist in
the directory on the PC. <br><br>Remember that all disk transfer commands are
from the Apple perspective. When you send, you are sending an image from the
Apple to the PC. When you receive, you are receiving an image from the PC to the
Apple.<br><br>To exit the program, just hit Q. <br><br>A few notes. This program
uses data compression, so especially if a disk has a lot of empty space, it'll
transfer more quickly. Also, all transfers are done in seven-track chunks, which
means when sending, the Apple will read seven tracks, send them, read seven more
tracks, send them, etc. When receiving, the reverse will happen. <br><br>I
recommend keeping the ADT binary file and ADT CONFIGURATION Applesoft program in
a safe place. If you lose it or accidentally overwrite it with something else,
you'll have to do the whole bootstrapping process all over again.<br><br>If you
have any questions, please let me know! <br>Hope this helps,
<br><br>Jayson <br><br></div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 10/6/2020 9:28 PM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
wrote:<br></div>
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<div>Think I sent you a note saying aI wanted more info, not sure.
Anyhow, I hope the program on the apple end talks? Also, I assume I'll
have to use terminal programs to move the program from this computer to the 2
e? </div>
<div>Thanks. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jaybird@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:jaybird@bluegrasspals.com">Jayson Smith</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="butchb@fairpoint.net" href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">Tiny Puppy-butchb</a> ; <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Apple Discussions</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:52 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix"><br></div>
<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">You can transfer 5.25 inch disks formatted for
either DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and which are not copy protected, using a program
called Apple Disk Transfer. The version I have requires a Super Serial card in
your Apple, and a Windows PC for the receiving side. I got Jeff Weiss, who is
on this list, set up with ADT a few years ago so he could transfer all his
Apple Talk magazine disks, which he did successfully. If you want more info,
just let me know.</div>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">Jayson</div>
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<div class="x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 10/6/2020 1:01 AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb
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<div>I got some stuff downloaded that I run at the command prompt in
windows. As far as what I have on actual disks, it has been a long
long time. I did find kidnapped, which I use to play. Haven't
found stoneville manor yet. I don't have a clue how to turn those
disks into images. I also have lots of eamon disks, beagle brothers
stuff and things like that. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Original Message -----
<div><b>From:</b> <a title="cmelloni@hotmail.com" href="mailto:cmelloni@hotmail.com">A B</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2020 7:28 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] introduction</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Welcome to the list. I'm curious to know the major titles you have in
collection.</div>
<div>You can also find many apple2 related applications in the Asimov ftp
server<br></div>
<div><a href="https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/">https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/</a><br></div>
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on behalf of Tiny Puppy-butchb <<a href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">butchb@fairpoint.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b>
October 6, 2020 12:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>
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<div class="x_x_PlainText">Just joined this list. My first computer was
an apple 2 e which <br>I still have. I plan on digging out my 2 e
soon, still have the <br>disks as well as a ten meg prodos scsii external
drive. My 2 e <br>also has I think 8 meg of ram on a card that took 36
256k chips.<br>Looking forward to lots of old apple
stuff.<br>Butch<br><br><a class="x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:butchb@fairpoint.net">butchb@fairpoint.net</a><br>Butch
Bussen<br>WA0VJR<br>node 3148
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