[Blindapple] Updated MESS emulator package

Jayson Smith jaybird at bluegrasspals.com
Sat Aug 31 19:41:27 EDT 2013


Hi,

You're not the first person to experience this, and I don't know what's 
causing it. I know this sounds pointless, but try opening my readme in 
notepad and looking at the example command line character by character 
to make absolutely sure you're typing everything right.
Jayson

On 8/31/2013 7:36 PM, Rachel Keyte wrote:
> OK update: I finally got it where it opened the apple2ee thing and 
> beeped at me but nothing else happens.
> How long should it take to open the disk immage if that in fact is 
> what it's doing? Lol
> At 09:41 PM 31/08/2013, you wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You're probably running from the command line. That means it can't 
>> find mess.exe. So try some things.
>>
>> 1. CD into the Mess directory, the place you unzipped the emulator 
>> package. Try running this command:
>> mess apple2ee -flop1 disks\twriter.dsk
>>
>> If it still says Mess is an unrecognized command...
>>
>> 2. Within that directory, check to see if there is, in fact, a 
>> mess.exe file. If not, that's your problem right there.
>>
>> Unzip the file again. If mess.exe still isn't there, the only thing I 
>> can think is that your antivirus is silently deleting it for some 
>> reason. Hopefully that's not happening. I can send you the official 
>> MESS build, but that one has the Echo speech a bit fast, since there 
>> was a problem in the source code. I fixed that problem and rebuilt MESS.
>>
>> Please let me know how things are going.
>> Jayson
>>
>> On 8/31/2013 3:24 AM, Rachel Keyte wrote:
>>> OK it's saying to me "mess is not recognized as an internal or 
>>> external command, operable file or batch program."
>>> I tried your first example where you wrote mess apple2ee etc, then 
>>> the below one where you said i needed to type "mess\mess apple2ee" etc.
>>> It's not recognizing the "mess" thi
>>> Thanksng for some reason
>>> At 03:34 PM 31/08/2013, you wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> You probably want to change to the directory where mess.exe is 
>>>> located if
>>>> you're doing this from the command line. If you're not doing it 
>>>> from the
>>>> command line, then yes, you need to give the full drive and path to
>>>> mess.exe, but shouldn't have to give the full path to the disk image,
>>>> just the relative path, like so, for example:
>>>> s:\mystuff\programs\mess\mess apple2ee -flop1 disks\twriter.dsk
>>>>
>>>> If that doesn't work, please give me any error message you're getting.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Rachel Keyte <racheldk at tpg.com.au>
>>>> To: Blind Apple Discussions <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:23:07 +1000
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Updated MESS emulator package
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Jason,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm having trouble getting this to work. As I unzipped the folder on
>>>> > to my F drive in a folder called "programs\shared"in the command
>>>> > prompt, should I type:
>>>> > f:\shared\pgorams\mess apple2ee -flop1\disks\games7.dsk?
>>>> > Note that I did try just putting in their exactly what you had below
>>>> > but it didn't work. Should there be more backslashes in your 
>>>> example?
>>>> > Also note that even though the folder is called 'shared", I'm not
>>>> > sharing anything with anyone; it was from the days i use to have an
>>>> > FPT site but they're gone.
>>>> > So could you just put again what I'd type in my example?
>>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>>> > At 10:23 PM 30/08/2013, you wrote:
>>>> > >Hi all,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >This update fixes the Echo pitch issue so it sounds more like the
>>>> > >real thing. A few other fixes are included, as well as a readme,
>>>> > >pasted below. URL is the same:
>>>> > >http://www.bluegrasspals.com/messapple.zip
>>>> > >Enjoy!
>>>> > >Jayson
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Apple Emulation with Echo II Plus Emulation for Windows
>>>> > >
>>>> > >This package contains an emulator called MESS which I have set 
>>>> up to
>>>> > >emulate an Enhanced Apple IIe with an Echo II Plus speech
>>>> > >synthesizer. If you're reading this, you've already downloaded and
>>>> > >extracted this archive. In the disks subfolder are several talking
>>>> > >disk images supplied so you can have fun with your virtual Apple. I
>>>> > >have quite a few more, but these are just some to get you started.
>>>> > >You'll also see a folder called roms, which you don't need to do
>>>> > >anything with. If you go poking around in there anyway, you'll see
>>>> > >several zip files. Do NOT unzip them, they are designed to stay 
>>>> zipped.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Before you start, you'll probably need a full desktop keyboard, for
>>>> > >reasons which will become apparent later on. If you're using Jaws,
>>>> > >you'll also want to set up a script to put it to sleep when 
>>>> mess.exe
>>>> > >is running. Otherwise, it will try to grab some Apple keystrokes,
>>>> > >and in general not do very nice things.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >To start the emulator with a disk in drive 1, type the following at
>>>> > >a command prompt, for example:
>>>> > >mess apple2ee -flop1 disks\egames.dsk
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Yes, you do need to type apple2ee with two e's since that's the
>>>> > >designator for an Enhanced IIe.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Once the Apple has started, things pretty much work like you'd 
>>>> think
>>>> > >they would. The four arrow keys really do act as the Apple's arrow
>>>> > >keys, left and right alt are open and closed apple, F12 is 
>>>> reset. In
>>>> > >most cases, even if your real caps lock is turned off, the Apple's
>>>> > >caps lock will be turned on, simply because so many Apple games and
>>>> > >programs require all upper case input. If you want to change this,
>>>> > >just hit your caps lock.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >The program records a wav file of your Apple session in a file
>>>> > >called session.wav. If you don't want this file, just delete it. It
>>>> > >is overwritten with each new emulator session, so if you do 
>>>> anything
>>>> > >you want to preserve, you need to take steps to do so before you 
>>>> run
>>>> > >Mess again.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I currently don't know how to switch disks, so you don't want to 
>>>> use
>>>> > >this to play Eamon or for any other purpose where disk switching is
>>>> > >required. Working on this.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Please be aware that this program doesn't significantly speed up
>>>> > >disk access, so there may be long pauses while Apple programs load.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >To exit the emulator, hold down the scroll lock and press the 
>>>> insert
>>>> > >key on the six-pack, that is, the set of keys with insert, del,
>>>> > >home, end, page-up, and page-down. Release both keys, then hit
>>>> > >escape. This will flip the power switch on the virtual Apple, so
>>>> > >anything you were doing will be lost forever.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Have fun!
>>>> > >
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